{"id":3753,"date":"2024-02-06T17:40:12","date_gmt":"2024-02-07T01:40:12","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/thelawlers.com\/Blognosticator\/?p=3753"},"modified":"2024-02-10T17:45:14","modified_gmt":"2024-02-11T01:45:14","slug":"i-wasnt-asking-the-right-question-brabout-mini-displayport","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/thelawlers.com\/Blognosticator\/?p=3753","title":{"rendered":"I wasn\u2019t asking the right questions<br>about Mini DisplayPort connections"},"content":{"rendered":"\n<p>I finally reached the point where my <em>Mac Pro<\/em> cylinder computer would no longer work for me.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>I bought it new 10 years ago, then modified it about five years later to expand its internal working memory. When I bought it, there was a 1 TB SSD card in the machine; when I tried to update to Mac OS Catalina, that required more, so I took out the 1 TB board, and replaced it with an Intel 2TB card called <em>NvE memory.<\/em><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>It has served me well.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-full\"><a href=\"https:\/\/thelawlers.com\/Blognosticator\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/02\/Mac-Pro-cylinder-29.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"648\" height=\"891\" src=\"https:\/\/thelawlers.com\/Blognosticator\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/02\/Mac-Pro-cylinder-29.jpg\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-3755\" srcset=\"https:\/\/thelawlers.com\/Blognosticator\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/02\/Mac-Pro-cylinder-29.jpg 648w, https:\/\/thelawlers.com\/Blognosticator\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/02\/Mac-Pro-cylinder-29-218x300.jpg 218w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 648px) 100vw, 648px\" \/><\/a><figcaption class=\"wp-element-caption\">This is my Mac Pro cylinder (Late 2013 edition). Shown are the input\/output ports, including six Thunderbolt 3 ports that I used to connect three external hard drives, two high-resolution displays, and a FireWire hub through an adapter. The new Mac Studio has Thunderbolt 4 receptacles (that are the same size as USB-C receptacles) on the back and two more on the front.<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p>I became aware of that computer\u2019s limitations recently when I could no longer update the operating system. I encountered this problem when Apple switched from Motorola <em>PowerPC<\/em> chips to Intel, and this time from Intel to <em>Apple Silicon. <\/em>I held on as long as I could, but was finally forced to make the switch when I could no longer access my bank\u2019s online banking system \u2013 they no longer support older browsers, and since the browser is tied to the operating system, I realized that I was stuck. I also could not run the latest Adobe applications or the Topaz applications I use in photography.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-large\"><a href=\"https:\/\/thelawlers.com\/Blognosticator\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/02\/Mac-system-diagram-01.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"1024\" height=\"727\" src=\"https:\/\/thelawlers.com\/Blognosticator\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/02\/Mac-system-diagram-01-1024x727.jpg\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-3756\" srcset=\"https:\/\/thelawlers.com\/Blognosticator\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/02\/Mac-system-diagram-01-1024x727.jpg 1024w, https:\/\/thelawlers.com\/Blognosticator\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/02\/Mac-system-diagram-01-300x213.jpg 300w, https:\/\/thelawlers.com\/Blognosticator\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/02\/Mac-system-diagram-01-768x545.jpg 768w, https:\/\/thelawlers.com\/Blognosticator\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/02\/Mac-system-diagram-01-1536x1091.jpg 1536w, https:\/\/thelawlers.com\/Blognosticator\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/02\/Mac-system-diagram-01.jpg 1621w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 1024px) 100vw, 1024px\" \/><\/a><figcaption class=\"wp-element-caption\">This was my original configuration. The challenge was getting the two high-resolution displays to work with the new Mac Studio computer through Thunderbolt or USB-C. Ultimately it was USB-C that worked, with adapters.<br>Click on the image to see an enlarged view.<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p>I had put it off for quite a while, then finally decided to buy a new <em>Mac Studio<\/em> computer. I went online and put in the order on the Apple web site. It gave me the option of having it delivered the next day for $8.00. I declined, choosing instead to receive the machine in two days. It arrived the next day anyway. Cha-ching! I saved $8.00!<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>The machine is an <em>M1 Ultra Mac Studio<\/em> with 64 GB of memory and 2 TB of System SSD memory. It has a 20-core CPU and a 48-core GPU. It supports the simultaneous streaming of eight 4K video streams and much more. I don\u2019t need to stream multiple video streams, so I\u2019m in good shape.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-large\"><a href=\"https:\/\/thelawlers.com\/Blognosticator\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/02\/Mac-Stuido-body.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"1024\" height=\"798\" src=\"https:\/\/thelawlers.com\/Blognosticator\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/02\/Mac-Stuido-body-1024x798.jpg\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-3792\" srcset=\"https:\/\/thelawlers.com\/Blognosticator\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/02\/Mac-Stuido-body-1024x798.jpg 1024w, https:\/\/thelawlers.com\/Blognosticator\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/02\/Mac-Stuido-body-300x234.jpg 300w, https:\/\/thelawlers.com\/Blognosticator\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/02\/Mac-Stuido-body-768x598.jpg 768w, https:\/\/thelawlers.com\/Blognosticator\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/02\/Mac-Stuido-body-1536x1196.jpg 1536w, https:\/\/thelawlers.com\/Blognosticator\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/02\/Mac-Stuido-body.jpg 1728w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 1024px) 100vw, 1024px\" \/><\/a><figcaption class=\"wp-element-caption\">This is my new Mac Studio computer. It\u2019s a powerful, speedy, and relatively small device. Best of all, it connected successfully to all of my peripherals \u2013\u00a0external drives, and two Mini DisplayPort displays without much trouble. <br>I took this photo with a tabletop product photo set-up using my iPhone 14 and its 2x lens.<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p>It\u2019s very fast. I noticed this the first time when I exported a handful of DNG photos from the <em>Photos<\/em> application to a desktop folder. This usually takes several minutes. When I took my finger off the mouse (a new mouse!), the machine made its click sound indicating the completion of a task. I thought something had gone wrong, so I looked in the folder, and lo! all the exported files were there. I\u2019m sure I\u2019ll be pleased by the speed of this machine as I use it more.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>When I ordered the new machine I expected the migration of my old data to be an issue (it always has been!). I was pleasantly surprised that it wasn\u2019t a problem this time. Copying all of my existing files from the <em>Mac Pro<\/em> to the <em>Studio<\/em> took less than an hour, and nothing was missed. I used an Ethernet cable connected between the two devices to make it happen as quickly as possible.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>My three big hard drives connected without difficulty. I have two RAID drives that use the older Thunderbolt cables. I bought a Thunderbolt adapter from Apple and plugged it in-line, and all the drives were online.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><em>Then things got a bit more complicated.<\/em> I have two displays: one is an older Apple 24-inch LED display, which has served me well for many years. My second display is a gorgeous Eizo 27-inch screen. That display uses Mini DisplayPort to connect to the computer. On the Mac Pro, there were six Thunderbolt\/DisplayPort receptacles. On the new machine there are none.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>I connected the Eizo to the new Studio with an HDMI cable, which allowed it to work, but limited its resolution to 1920 x 1080 pixels. This is a 4K display, so it should be able to support much higher resolution. I was stuck with one working display, and that one didn\u2019t support the resolution at which I have run it for years.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>I contacted Apple Support first by searching for Mini DisplayPort to Thunderbolt, then a variety of other search terms. All resulted in no information. Could I be the first person in history with this connection problem?<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>I then contacted Apple Support on the telephone, and was handed-off to a specialist who came up empty, except to recommend Apple\u2019s Thunderbolt 3 to Thunderbolt 2 adapter ($50). I ordered two of them and they arrived quickly. But, on the back of the box it very clearly indicates that this adapter will not work with Mini DisplayPort.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-large\"><a href=\"https:\/\/thelawlers.com\/Blognosticator\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/02\/Thunderbolt-adapter-box.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"1024\" height=\"635\" src=\"https:\/\/thelawlers.com\/Blognosticator\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/02\/Thunderbolt-adapter-box-1024x635.jpg\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-3770\" srcset=\"https:\/\/thelawlers.com\/Blognosticator\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/02\/Thunderbolt-adapter-box-1024x635.jpg 1024w, https:\/\/thelawlers.com\/Blognosticator\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/02\/Thunderbolt-adapter-box-300x186.jpg 300w, https:\/\/thelawlers.com\/Blognosticator\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/02\/Thunderbolt-adapter-box-768x476.jpg 768w, https:\/\/thelawlers.com\/Blognosticator\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/02\/Thunderbolt-adapter-box-1536x953.jpg 1536w, https:\/\/thelawlers.com\/Blognosticator\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/02\/Thunderbolt-adapter-box.jpg 1688w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 1024px) 100vw, 1024px\" \/><\/a><figcaption class=\"wp-element-caption\">On the back of the Thunderbolt 3 to Thunderbolt 2 adapter from Apple it shows that it is compatible with the Thunderbolt Display, but not compatible withe the Apple Cinema Display (my display), Mini DisplayPort (my Eizo display) and DisplayPort. I didn\u2019t open the box, and will attempt to return the two adapters I purchased.<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p>So I called <em>Other World Computing,<\/em> the go-to company for all things Mac and storage. In the past I have enjoyed their skillful tech support, and I have purchased numerous external drives and other accessories from them. After a few minutes on the phone I realized that I had stumped their support guy. He also came up with the Apple Thunderbolt adapter. I pointed out that I was holding one, and it indicated that it will not work with Mini DisplayPort.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Hmmm.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>One option was the purchase a dock from OWC. Last year I bought one of those for my wife\u2019s new <em>Mac Mini<\/em> computer with a Mini DisplayPort display (also an Apple 24-inch LED display). That works great, but I have <em>two<\/em> Mini DisplayPort displays, and I couldn\u2019t find a dock with two receptacles for these. Perhaps I could buy two docks?<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>The challenge of connecting two Mini DisplayPort displays to my new computer was starting to affect my sleep. I couldn\u2019t figure out what to do next. I could purchase a new Eizo display, or two, those now using USB-C plugs to connect to more modern computers.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Then it hit me: if those use USB-C plugs, then it might be possible to get a Mini DisplayPort-to-USB-C adapter. I looked on Amazon and found about nine million of these. I ordered two that seemed to fit the bill. They advertise connectivity between MacBook Pro, Mac Mini, and several other computers to Mini DisplayPort. They do not <em>specifically<\/em> indicate that they will work on the Mac Studio (but they do!).<\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-large\"><a href=\"https:\/\/thelawlers.com\/Blognosticator\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/02\/Mac-system-diagram-2.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"1024\" height=\"714\" src=\"https:\/\/thelawlers.com\/Blognosticator\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/02\/Mac-system-diagram-2-1024x714.jpg\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-3757\" srcset=\"https:\/\/thelawlers.com\/Blognosticator\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/02\/Mac-system-diagram-2-1024x714.jpg 1024w, https:\/\/thelawlers.com\/Blognosticator\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/02\/Mac-system-diagram-2-300x209.jpg 300w, https:\/\/thelawlers.com\/Blognosticator\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/02\/Mac-system-diagram-2-768x535.jpg 768w, https:\/\/thelawlers.com\/Blognosticator\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/02\/Mac-system-diagram-2-1536x1071.jpg 1536w, https:\/\/thelawlers.com\/Blognosticator\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/02\/Mac-system-diagram-2.jpg 1628w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 1024px) 100vw, 1024px\" \/><\/a><figcaption class=\"wp-element-caption\">This is a diagram of my new Mac Studio computer with all peripherals connected. I found adapters on Amazon (shown in red, above) that allow me to connect the older Mini DisplayPort cables from those displays to connect to the Thunderbolt 4\/USB-C receptacles on the <em>Mac Studio.<\/em> With these I am able to use both displays at their full resolutions. An HDMI cable connection would not allow that, limiting me to 1920 x 1080 pixels resolution on one display. The other display was inoperable; it required the adapter to work.<br>Click on the image to see an enlarged view.<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p>I ordered two of them. And then I waited two days for them to arrive. Today they arrived; I rushed to the back porch to get my package, quickly opened it and dashed upstairs to my desk. I opened the connectors, plugged them into the Mini DisplayPort cables from the two displays, then plugged those into the Thunderbolt\/USB-C receptacles on the back of the Mac Studio, and I woke the machine up. They worked immediately!<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Now I have two very high resolution displays just as I had on my older Mac Pro. Total cost of the adapters: $32.00.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>My problem was that <em>I wasn\u2019t asking the right question\u2026<\/em> I was asking if Mini DisplayPort would plug in to Thunderbolt. I <em>should<\/em> have been asking if Mini DisplayPort would plug in to USB-C. The answer is <em>absolutely yes!<\/em> <em>Emphatically<\/em> yes! Ya sure. <em>You betcha!<\/em><\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-large\"><a href=\"https:\/\/thelawlers.com\/Blognosticator\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/02\/MDP-to-USB-C-adapter.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"1024\" height=\"663\" src=\"https:\/\/thelawlers.com\/Blognosticator\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/02\/MDP-to-USB-C-adapter-1024x663.jpg\" alt=\"Connecting a Mini DisplayPort display to a Mac Studio computer using USB-C adapters.\" class=\"wp-image-3758\" srcset=\"https:\/\/thelawlers.com\/Blognosticator\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/02\/MDP-to-USB-C-adapter-1024x663.jpg 1024w, https:\/\/thelawlers.com\/Blognosticator\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/02\/MDP-to-USB-C-adapter-300x194.jpg 300w, https:\/\/thelawlers.com\/Blognosticator\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/02\/MDP-to-USB-C-adapter-768x498.jpg 768w, https:\/\/thelawlers.com\/Blognosticator\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/02\/MDP-to-USB-C-adapter.jpg 1031w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 1024px) 100vw, 1024px\" \/><\/a><figcaption class=\"wp-element-caption\">This is the adapter I bought for the connections. There are numerous brands available on Amazon. I chose the <em>Jasput<\/em> brand because theirs had the best documentation in the Amazon store, showing their adapter connected to various Mac computers and various displays. They also showed which displays were <em>not<\/em> compatible. Fortunately mine were both compatible.<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>I finally reached the point where my Mac Pro cylinder computer would no longer work for me. I bought it new 10 years ago, then modified it about five years later to expand its internal working memory. 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